Trust Shift

Developers14 Mar 2023

“Large language models such as GPT and its peers are just stochastic parrots… having absolutely no degree of understanding.”

Grady Booch Co-creator of UML infoworld.com

142 developers and security researchers climb from “never” to “I barely check it” in five rungs, in their own dated words.

Part one

Developers

on letting AI write their code

Rung 1 of 5

Never

AI isn’t trusted with real code

38 people · Jan 2023 to May 2026

  1. Jan 2023

    “I don't trust people's code (especially mine,) and I surely don't trust ChatGPT's output.”

    Santiago Valdarrama Machine learning engineer and educator dspn.substack.com

  2. 17 Mar 2023

    “It seems like it can only do very rudimentary things, and it usually gets them partially wrong”

    Casey Muratori Game and engine programmer x.com

  3. 22 Mar 2023

    “me and quite a few others I know tried it and turned it off.”

    Mike Hearn Former Google engineer, early Bitcoin developer news.ycombinator.com

  4. 4 Apr 2023

    “ChatGPT should NOT be trusted to give you production ready code”

    Mike Warren Software developer mikewarren.substack.com

  5. 4 Apr 2023

    “It can't understand complex systems (even just for the simple reason that you can't throw all the code at it).”

    Armin Ronacher Creator of Flask x.com

  6. 7 Apr 2023

    “I myself shall certainly continue to leave such research to others, and to devote my time to developing concepts that are authentic and trustworthy.”

    Donald Knuth Author, The Art of Computer Programming www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu archived copy

  7. 31 May 2023

    “AI can't code as well as I can on platforms I'm expert in.”

    Jake Archibald Web developer, former Chrome DevRel x.com

  8. Jun 2023

    “The code generated by Copilot is often wrong, but always subtly so”

    Chris Krycho Software engineer, Ember.js and TypeScript v5.chriskrycho.com

  9. SurveyStack Overflow 2023

  10. 4 Jun 2023

    “Here's why I don't use Copilot (or ChatGPT) to write code”

    Ed Summers Software developer, digital libraries inkdroid.org

  11. 26 Jul 2023

    “So my hope that ChatGPT could help me in writing some boost::graph code to parse graphviz files was unfortunately not successful.”

    Halvar Flake Security researcher x.com

  12. 4 Sep 2023

    “I turned off Copilot recently and realized it made me a better programmer even without it.”

    deepfates Co-founder, Grove Research x.com

  13. 2 Jan 2024

    “Whenever subtle reasoning is required, LLMs fail disastrously.”

    Salvatore Sanfilippo (antirez) Creator of Redis antirez.com

  14. 17 Jan 2024

    “Wasted an hour and deleted some config data because of a subtle bug in Copilot generated code.”

    Navin Kabra Founder, ReliScore x.com

  15. 2 Apr 2024

    “The time saved in generating code was subsequently lost to debugging and verifying the AI's output.”

    Chanakya Sankritayayana Software developer linkedin.com

  16. 16 Apr 2024

    “I disabled Copilot in VSCode and RStudio yesterday and (subjectively) my creativity and productivity went *up*.”

    Stephen Turner Associate Professor, UVA School of Data Science x.com

  17. 17 Apr 2024

    “I wouldn't trust LLMs to do anything of real import.”

    Molly White Software engineer, writer of Citation Needed citationneeded.news

  18. 19 Apr 2024

    “Let's wait 10 years and see where it actually goes before we make all these crazy announcements.”

    Linus Torvalds Creator of Linux linux.slashdot.org

  19. 12 Jun 2024

    “Oh, has it changed how I program? No, no, not, not at all.”

    Robert C. Martin Author, Clean Code jesseduffield.com

  20. 14 Jun 2024

    “I've not made AI assistance a part of my regular code workflow.”

    Jayant Bhawal Engineer, Middleware dev.to

  21. 19 Jun 2024

    “it's impressive, but not actually suitable for anything more than churning out boilerplate.”

    Nikhil Suresh Data engineer, writer of Ludicity ludic.mataroa.blog

  22. 2 Jul 2024

    “me: That code is busted.”

    Michael Jackson Co-creator, Remix and React Router x.com

  23. 7 Jul 2024

    “I tried co-pilot for a year”

    ThePrimeagen Streamer, ex-Netflix engineer x.com

  24. 23 Aug 2024

    “Canceled Copilot”

    Emil Privér Co-founder and head of engineering, enad x.com

  25. 24 Aug 2024

    “However, in my own workflows I have not found them to lead to any productivity boost.”

    François Chollet Creator of Keras x.com

  26. 30 Sep 2024

    “Using CoPilot, I typed somewhat less, but did more code review, editing, & diagnosis of subtle bugs. No net time saved.”

    Billy Hollis UX and development consultant x.com

  27. 6 Oct 2024

    “As more and more AI slop, generated code gets pushed to repos, the ability to go into a random codebase and debug something becomes more and more valuable.”

    Jess Frazelle Systems engineer, co-founder of Zoo x.com

  28. 16 Nov 2024

    “I don't see how language models can help me solve problems faster.”

    Chomba Bupe Machine intelligence entrepreneur x.com

  29. 21 Dec 2024

    “No, I don't see a reason to use LLMs in day-to-day programming at all, unless the code I am trying to produce is quick throwaway junk”

    Jonathan Blow Game developer, Braid and The Witness x.com

  30. 29 Dec 2024

    “I use o1 for brainstorming design sometimes but would never trust its code”

    alice maz Programmer x.com

  31. Jan 2025

    “any productivity gains from using the AI were net neutral at best.”

    Max Woolf Data scientist, author of LLM tools minimaxir.com

  32. 10 Mar 2025

    “they still make basic mistakes.”

    Mark Seemann Author, Code That Fits in Your Head blog.ploeh.dk

  33. 1 Apr 2025

    “In late 2024 I removed all LLM integrations from my code editors.”

    Luciano Nooijen Software engineer lucianonooijen.com

  34. 2 Apr 2025

    “Every inline-coding AI assistant I've tried made me want to gnash my teeth together”

    Nolan Lawson Web performance engineer nolanlawson.com

  35. 4 Jun 2025

    “I have seen very few successful examples of using genAI to produce whole, working systems.”

    Glyph Lefkowitz Creator of Twisted blog.glyph.im

  36. 12 Jul 2025

    “I don't let it drive my code. I've tried that.”

    David Heinemeier Hansson Creator of Rails lexfridman.com

  37. 13 Oct 2025

    “I tried to use claude/codex agents a few times but they just didn't work well enough at all and net unhelpful”

    Andrej Karpathy OpenAI co-founder x.com

  38. 18 May 2026

    “They generate more bugs, more security holes.”

    Bjarne Stroustrup Creator of C++ developing.devCounterpoint

Meanwhile, a few early calls

  1. 24 Jan 2023

    “The hottest new programming language is English”

    Andrej Karpathy OpenAI co-founder x.comEarly call

  2. 19 Apr 2023

    “The value of 90% of my skills just dropped to $0. The leverage for the remaining 10% went up 1000x.”

    Kent Beck Creator of Extreme Programming newsletter.kentbeck.comEarly call

Rung 2 of 5

Some code, never production

Every line gets read

15 people · Aug 2023 to Sep 2026

  1. 27 Aug 2023

    “I will never commit code if I can't both understand and explain every line of the code that I'm committing.”

    Simon Willison Co-creator of Django simonwillison.net

  2. 9 Dec 2023

    “I want to understand, refine, and perfect every line, so manually having to copy code is a feature not a bug”

    David Heinemeier Hansson Creator of Ruby on Rails x.com

  3. SurveyStack Overflow 2024

  4. 6 Jan 2025

    “Your job as a programmer using an LLM is to read the code it produces, think about it, and decide if the work is good.”

    David Crawshaw Co-founder and CTO, Tailscale crawshaw.io

  5. 4 Feb 2025

    “It's rare that I let Copilot produce business logic for me”

    Sean Goedecke Staff engineer, GitHub seangoedecke.com

  6. 5 May 2025

    “the only code I can stand by is the code I am fully confident in its implementation.”

    Max Woolf Data scientist, author of LLM tools minimaxir.com

  7. 12 May 2025

    “AI coding is used to generate a lot of bulk code that is often blindly accepted”

    John Carmack Creator of Doom x.com

  8. 2 Jun 2025

    “There's plenty of things I can't trust an LLM with. No LLM has any of access to prod here.”

    Thomas Ptacek Fly.io, vulnerability researcher fly.io

  9. 6 Jun 2025

    “But for important things, like my fucking auth system, I'd much rather do it myself”

    Neil Madden Author, API Security in Action neilmadden.blog

  10. 14 Jun 2025

    “I could only incorporate AI generated code into a project of mine after I thoroughly review it and make sure I understand it well.”

    Miguel Grinberg Author, Flask Mega-Tutorial blog.miguelgrinberg.com

  11. Developers10 Jul 2025Counterpoint

    METR trial: experienced developers are 19% slower with AI, yet believe they were 20% faster. metr.org

  12. 8 Aug 2025

    “I use it for scaffolding and let it handle the boring parts. But I write the core logic myself.”

    Talha Tahir Software engineer thetalhatahir.com

  13. Oct 2025

    “Code still needs to be read and reviewed by humans, otherwise we risk losing control of our existence completely.”

    Guido van Rossum Creator of Python odbms.org

  14. 30 Oct 2025

    “I feel like I get a 10 to 20% improvement—some really fancy code completion and autocomplete.”

    Chris Lattner Creator of LLVM and Swift fast.ai

  15. Dec 2025

    “This is especially valuable for code that is experimental or auxiliary or otherwise throwaway.”

    Bryan Cantrill CTO, Oxide rfd.shared.oxide.computer

  16. 21 May 2026

    “We should thus treat LLM-generated software with skepticism, it can still be useful, but we need to be aware of the risks.”

    Martin Fowler Thoughtworks martinfowler.comCounterpoint

  17. 14 Sep 2026

    “AI is not yet good enough for extremely high performance software (but it will be).”

    Elon Musk CEO, Tesla and xAI x.comCounterpoint

Rung 3 of 5

Some of it ships

Low-risk work goes to production

23 people · Sep 2024 to Oct 2026

  1. 20 Sep 2024

    “when I'm writing production code, code that I intend to ship, then it's much more like I'm treating it basically as an intern who's faster at typing than I am.”

    Simon Willison Co-creator of Django simonwillison.net

  2. 29 Oct 2024

    “More than a quarter of all new code at Google is generated by AI, then reviewed and accepted by engineers.”

    Sundar Pichai CEO, Google blog.googleLab claim

  3. Developers2 Feb 2025

    Andrej Karpathy coins “vibe coding,” fine for “throwaway weekend projects.” simonwillison.net

  4. Jun 2025

    “I was trying to validate my skepticism. I ended up proving myself wrong.”

    Kenton Varda Lead engineer, Cloudflare neilmadden.blog

  5. 2 Jun 2025

    “Almost nothing it spits out for me merges without edits. … I have to read the code line-by-line anyways.”

    Thomas Ptacek Fly.io, vulnerability researcher fly.io

  6. 25 Jun 2025

    “increased the scope to see if augmented coding could create production-ready, performance-competitive library code.”

    Kent Beck Creator of Extreme Programming newsletter.kentbeck.com

  7. SurveyStack Overflow 2025

  8. 9 Jul 2025

    “For me personally, the minimum I want to still care about and be on top of is the test code.”

    Birgitta Böckeler Distinguished Engineer, Thoughtworks martinfowler.com

  9. 2 Sep 2025

    “Today, AI writes 80% of my initial implementations while I focus on architecture, review, and steering multiple development threads simultaneously.”

    Vincent Quigley Staff engineer, Sanity sanity.io

  10. 8 Oct 2025

    “every one of our engineers, 100% is now assisted by AI coders, and our productivity has gone up incredibly.”

    Jensen Huang CEO, Nvidia cnbc.comLab claim

  11. 11 Oct 2025

    “a key skill in working effectively with coding agents is developing an intuition for when you don't need to closely review every line of code they produce.”

    Simon Willison Co-creator of Django x.com

  12. 2 Nov 2025

    “We've settled on 2 human approvals for any AI-initiated PR for now”

    Shrivu Shankar Engineering leader blog.sshh.io

  13. Dec 2025

    “The closer code is to the system that we ship, the greater care needs to be shown when using LLMs.”

    Bryan Cantrill CTO, Oxide rfd.shared.oxide.computer

  14. 6 Dec 2025

    “generally almost right even if the code is bad”

    alice maz Programmer x.com

  15. Then2 Apr 2025

    “Every inline-coding AI assistant I've tried made me want to gnash my teeth together”

    8months

    Now22 Dec 2025

    “I still kind of hate AI agents and feel ambivalent toward them. But they work.”

    Nolan Lawson Web performance engineer nolanlawson.com

  16. 5 Feb 2026

    “my personal journey from AI skeptic to someone who finds a lot of value in it daily”

    Mitchell Hashimoto Co-founder, HashiCorp x.com

  17. 16 Feb 2026

    “I wouldn't run my production apps—that actually make money or could cause harm if they break—on unreviewed AI code.”

    Jeff Geerling Maintainer of 300+ open-source projects jeffgeerling.com

  18. ThenJan 2025

    “any productivity gains from using the AI were net neutral at best.”

    13months

    Now27 Feb 2026

    “it's enough to be less cynical and more optimistic about agentic coding.”

    Max Woolf Data scientist, author of LLM tools minimaxir.com

  19. 28 Feb 2026

    “Shock! Shock! I learned yesterday that an open problem I'd been working on for several weeks had just been solved by Claude Opus 4.6”

    Donald Knuth Author, The Art of Computer Programming www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu archived copy

  20. 12 Mar 2026

    “claude code is dangerous for work life balance.”

    Stephen Turner Associate Professor, UVA School of Data Science x.com

  21. 5 Apr 2026

    “reviewing every change thoroughly, fixing problems eagerly as I spotted them”

    Lalit Maganti Senior staff engineer, Google lalitm.com

  22. 11 Jul 2026

    “Claude code is the best harness. It's not even close.”

    Michael Jackson Co-creator, Remix and React Router x.com

  23. 8 Sep 2026

    “Here's how I am making custom hardware for my house using codex”

    Jess Frazelle Systems engineer, co-founder of Zoo x.com

  24. 25 Sep 2026

    “6 months ago I was super against everything coding with LLMs”

    Emil Privér Co-founder and head of engineering, enad x.com

  25. 7 Oct 2026

    “Can you see my journey of doing more and more coding using AI agents”

    Navin Kabra Founder, ReliScore x.com

  26. 20 Oct 2026

    “UI and glue. if it is wrong, you see it and regenerate it”

    Robert Sasu Core developer, MultiversX x.com

Rung 4 of 5

They stop writing code

Agents write nearly all of it

20 people · Sep 2025 to Oct 2026

  1. Then4 Apr 2023

    “It can't understand complex systems (even just for the simple reason that you can't throw all the code at it).”

    29months

    Now29 Sep 2025

    “I'm probably north of 90% AI-written code”

    Armin Ronacher Creator of Flask lucumr.pocoo.org

  2. Developers24 Nov 2025

    Claude Opus 4.5 ships. Developers later call it the turn. anthropic.com

  3. 27 Dec 2025

    “In the last thirty days, 100% of my contributions to Claude Code were written by Claude Code”

    Boris Cherny Creator of Claude Code, Anthropic x.com

  4. 2 Jan 2026

    “I gave Claude Code a description of the problem, it generated what we built last year in an hour.”

    Jaana Dogan Principal engineer, Google x.com

  5. 5 Jan 2026

    “I no longer write any code by hand from scratch, at all.”

    Daniel Olshansky CTO, Grove olshansky.substack.com

  6. Then19 Apr 2024

    “Let's wait 10 years and see where it actually goes before we make all these crazy announcements.”

    21months

    Now9 Jan 2026

    “The python visualizer tool has been basically written by vibe-coding.”

    Linus Torvalds Linux, on a hobby project github.com

  7. Then2 Jan 2024

    “Whenever subtle reasoning is required, LLMs fail disastrously.”

    24months

    Now11 Jan 2026

    “Writing code is no longer needed for the most part.”

    Salvatore Sanfilippo (antirez) Creator of Redis antirez.com

  8. 19 Jan 2026

    “the era of humans writing code is over”

    Ryan Dahl Creator of Node.js x.com

  9. 20 Jan 2026

    “I have engineers within Anthropic who say I don't write any code anymore. I just let the model write the code, I edit it.”

    Dario Amodei CEO, Anthropic entrepreneur.comLab claim

  10. Then13 Oct 2025

    “I tried to use claude/codex agents a few times but they just didn't work well enough at all and net unhelpful”

    3months

    Now26 Jan 2026

    “I rapidly went from about 80% manual+autocomplete coding and 20% agents in November to 80% agent coding and 20% edits+touchups in December.”

    Andrej Karpathy OpenAI co-founder x.com

  11. 21 Feb 2026

    “As of mid-February 2026, I effectively no longer handwrite code.”

    Andy Bromberg Founder andybromberg.com

  12. 21 Mar 2026

    “I didn't write a single line of... anything. Agents wrote 100% of everything you see”

    Mitchell Hashimoto Co-founder, HashiCorp x.com

  13. 24 Mar 2026

    “Lessons from six months of letting AI agents write my code for me”

    Luke Wilson Engineer, Project Autonomy projectautonomy.substack.com

  14. 31 Mar 2026

    “I get AI help with everything now except for writing and wiping my ass, and both are on the short list.”

    Steve Yegge Veteran engineer and blogger x.com

  15. 14 May 2026

    “this is already the status quo; we haven't been typing code ourselves for many months now.”

    Jarred Sumner Creator of Bun theregister.com

  16. 13 Jul 2026

    “Is it just me or is "open up a Claude Code (or Codex) session" becoming the default for doing work?”

    Matthew Green Cryptographer, Johns Hopkins x.com

  17. Then12 Jul 2025

    “I don't let it drive my code. I've tried that.”

    13months

    Now26 Aug 2026

    “It was full throttle, 100%, everything is written by agents but steered by me.”

    David Heinemeier Hansson Creator of Rails lexfridman.com

  18. 27 Aug 2026

    “In February of this year, I made a rule for myself: I wasn't going to write code by hand anymore.”

    Maisem Ali Engineer, exe.dev blog.exe.dev

  19. SurveyStack Overflow 2026

    Question changed. Now 48% trust AI output “when I can easily verify” it.

  20. 6 Oct 2026

    “Nearly all of the most productive software engineers I've met – who were hand-writing code a year ago – no longer write the code by hand”

    Gergely Orosz The Pragmatic Engineer newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com

  21. 20 Oct 2026

    “I recently built an admin interface for a customer project without writing a single line of code myself.”

    Daniel Willig Senior software engineer, mimacom mimacom.com

  22. 20 Oct 2026

    “almost none of that code was typed by a human? That's where my team is today.”

    Ankit Jain Engineering lead tessl.io

Rung 5 of 5

They stop reviewing it

The code ships as written

16 people · Feb 2025 to Oct 2026

  1. 2 Feb 2025

    “I "Accept All" always, I don't read the diffs anymore.”

    Andrej Karpathy OpenAI co-founder x.com

  2. 28 Dec 2025

    “These days I don't read much code anymore.”

    Peter Steinberger Founder of PSPDFKit, creator of OpenClaw steipete.me

  3. Jan 2026

    “I don't read the code. But I read the agent output religiously.”

    Ben Tossell Founder of Ben's Bites bensbites.com

  4. 14 Jan 2026

    “Gas Town, which runs all its Claude Code workers with --dangerously-skip-permissions.”

    Steve Yegge Veteran engineer and blogger x.com

  5. Feb 2026

    “increasingly I am not reading every line of every PR.”

    Calvin French-Owen Co-founder of Segment calv.info

  6. Then27 Aug 2023

    “I will never commit code if I can't both understand and explain every line of the code that I'm committing.”

    33months

    Now6 May 2026

    “as the coding agents get more reliable, I'm not reviewing every line of code that they write anymore, even for my production level stuff.”

    Simon Willison Co-creator of Django simonwillison.net

  7. 14 Jul 2026

    “if you control the ideas of your software, looking at the code itself is suboptimal and often pointless.”

    Salvatore Sanfilippo (antirez) Creator of Redis antirez.com

  8. Then12 Jun 2024

    “Oh, has it changed how I program? No, no, not, not at all.”

    25months

    Now23 Jul 2026

    “My current strategy is to not read any of the code written by my agents.”

    Robert C. Martin Author, Clean Code raphamoura.dev

  9. ThenJan 2023

    “I don't trust people's code (especially mine,) and I surely don't trust ChatGPT's output.”

    43months

    Now8 Aug 2026

    “I'm officially done reading AI-generated code”

    Santiago Valdarrama Machine learning engineer and educator explainx.ai

  10. 27 Aug 2026

    “I didn't read a single line of its code, nor did I really pay attention to how it was architected.”

    Maisem Ali Engineer, exe.dev blog.exe.dev

  11. 21 Sep 2026

    “Agreed that reviews in the form of reading every line of code are dead.”

    Adam Warski R&D, VirtusLab and SoftwareMill x.com

  12. 28 Sep 2026

    “But again, I don't intend to spend any time writing it or reading it. It's a prompt compilation target. So who cares.”

    David Heinemeier Hansson Creator of Ruby on Rails x.com

  13. 4 Oct 2026

    “I review the plan, not the code.”

    Alexey Indeev Author, The Leveraged Mind read.aindeev.com

  14. 17 Oct 2026

    “I held firm for the longest time, but I'm calling it: as of Astra and Opus 5.5, you don't need to read the code anymore.”

    Anshu Former YC founder x.com

  15. 17 Oct 2026

    “In my personal project, I don't review most of the code anymore”

    Vasiliy Zukanov Software engineer and instructor x.com

  16. 20 Oct 2026

    “Most code is AI-written but we do a high-level review, run it and use the apps”

    Troy Hunt Creator of Have I Been Pwned x.com

Part two

Offensive security

on AI finding and exploiting bugs

Rung 1 of 5

AI can’t hack

No real bugs, just noise

32 people · Jan 2023 to Oct 2026

  1. 31 Jan 2023

    “I was legitimately a malware developer for a decade and it took me three hours to get a functional piece of code”

    Marcus Hutchins Malware researcher cyberscoop.com

  2. 9 Feb 2023

    “Don't use ChatGPT for security code review. It's not meant to be used that way, it doesn't really work”

    Chris Anley Chief Scientist, NCC Group nccgroup.com

  3. 22 Feb 2023

    “We don't think AI is the future of hacking, but it could certainly turn into a great assistant”

    Dustin Childs Head of threat awareness, Zero Day Initiative theregister.com

  4. 14 Mar 2023

    “GPT-4 performed poorly at building exploits for the vulnerabilities that were identified.”

    OpenAI red team GPT-4 system card cdn.openai.com

  5. 17 Mar 2023

    “It couldn't do it. No matter how I crafted the prompts, it couldn't come up with the deep, technical response I was alluding to.”

    Justin Gardner Bug bounty hunter, Critical Thinking podcast x.com

  6. 20 Mar 2023

    “ChatGPT responds to every request with a high degree of confidence whether it's right or wrong, whether it's outputting functional or nonfunctional code.”

    Nathan Hamiel Security researcher, Kudelski Security threatshub.org

  7. 22 Mar 2023

    “It lacks the ability to reason about the proper concepts and produces too many false positives for practical usage in audit tasks.”

    Trail of Bits auditors Dinaburg, Feist and Schirone blog.trailofbits.com

  8. 14 May 2023

    “there's no chance for an LLM-based solution to replace penetration testers.”

    Gelei Deng Creator of PentestGPT github.com

  9. Security12 Jul 2023

    Bugcrowd survey: 72% of hackers say AI will never replicate their creativity. bugcrowd.com

  10. 18 Oct 2023

    “A "researcher" uses an LLM to find a vulnerability in curl that is COMPLETELY hallucinated.”

    Adam Schaal Security researcher, Kernelcon founder x.com

  11. 1 Jan 2024

    “We're not exactly there yet, but I believe that this will be a reality”

    Mikko Hyppönen Chief research officer, WithSecure thenextweb.com

  12. 2 Jan 2024

    “I strongly suspect we will get more LLM generated rubbish in our Hackerone inboxes going forward.”

    Daniel Stenberg curl maintainer daniel.haxx.se

  13. 2 Jan 2024

    “we're soon to see a top reason security issues don't get fixed will be because they are lost in the sea of LLM generated nonsense bug bounty reports.”

    Scott Piper Cloud security researcher x.com

  14. 2 Jan 2024

    “LLM reports -> LLM triage = Self LLM-licking ice cream cone”

    Katie Moussouris Founder, Luta Security x.com

  15. 4 Mar 2024

    “I don't find any of these models useful for non-BS tasks. They don't write very nice text and they can't solve any sort of real research problem.”

    Matthew Green Cryptographer, Johns Hopkins x.com

  16. 5 Mar 2024

    “If you want to evaluate your AI technique then benchmark it against real auditors on fresh codebases.”

    Joran Honig Security researcher, bug bounty hunter x.com

  17. 12 Mar 2024

    “curiosity is the one thing that we can’t automate. AI is not going to replace that anytime soon”

    Tom Eston Penetration tester, Bishop Fox pentest-tools.com

  18. 13 May 2024

    “never replace dedicated hackers, truly the most skilled people out there”

    Chris Thompson Global head, IBM X-Force Red theregister.com

  19. 9 Jun 2024

    “So far it has identified issues that are technically correct but aren't actually an issue within the larger context of the how the code is used.”

    Ethan Heilman Security researcher news.ycombinator.com

  20. 9 Jun 2024

    “…it would save me N hours of work fixing bugs instead of costing me N hours of work triaging false positives. Nobody has presented such a demonstration yet”

    William Woodruff Security engineer news.ycombinator.com

  21. 21 Jun 2024

    “tried to use LLMs to solve simple bug-finding CTF-style problems and had quite poor results (as you would expect)”

    Dave Aitel Exploit developer, Immunity founder cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com

  22. 26 Jun 2024

    “The day LLMs become capable of autonomously finding / exploiting 0-days is the day we can retire & put most of the security industry out of business.”

    Chris Rohlf Vulnerability researcher, CSET Georgetown x.com

  23. 8 Sep 2024

    “I don't think using out-of-the-box LLM (local or not) can do anything similar to real-world bug hunting.”

    Ron Chan Bug bounty hunter x.com

  24. 5 Nov 2024

    “We're not there yet. We're not even remotely there yet. But it's a reasonable extrapolation.”

    Bruce Schneier Security technologist, Harvard Kennedy School schneier.com

  25. 18 Nov 2024

    “I've seen headlines saying that it's happened but when I look into it, it always turns out to be a narrow situation that's not very useful in the real world.”

    Luke Stephens (hakluke) Bug bounty hunter, founder of Ironbark Cyber x.com

  26. 2 Dec 2024

    “I'm looking forward to the day where AI finds bugs in software someone actually uses.”

    Joshua J. Drake Security researcher, found Stagefright x.com

  27. 3 Dec 2024

    “These low-quality reports should be treated as if they are malicious.”

    Seth Larson Security developer, Python Software Foundation sethmlarson.dev

  28. 19 Dec 2024

    “AI tools flooding GitHub & Medium with "vulnerability writeups" and CVE POCs that are completely broken, entirely hallucinated, or simply pure fantasy.”

    Patrik Grobshäuser Security researcher, Assetnote x.com

  29. 6 May 2025

    “Good god did they hallucinate the segmentation fault and the resulting GDB trace too? … this is truly a new low for AI slop bug reports.”

    Robert Xiao Security researcher news.ycombinator.com

  30. 7 May 2025

    “A threshold has been reached. We are effectively being DDoSed.”

    Daniel Stenberg curl maintainer theregister.com

  31. 25 May 2025

    “Even when I give it a specific piece of code and probe/hint in the right direction, it produces five paragraphs of vulnerabilities, none of which are real”

    Luc Gommans Security consultant news.ycombinator.com

  32. 29 May 2025

    “I do think that for my fellow AI skeptics that we have been out voted in the industry tbh”

    Katie Paxton-Fear Bug bounty hunter, API security researcher x.com

  33. 21 Oct 2026

    “Most of the PoCs being posted are completely non-functional AI slop.”

    Marcus Hutchins Malware researcher x.comCounterpoint

Meanwhile, a few early calls

  1. 2 Apr 2023

    “AI will significantly diminish the difficulty of infosec, shedding light on the dark corners of IT configurations and making it harder for hackers to hide.”

    Daniel Miessler Founder, Unsupervised Learning danielmiessler.comEarly call

  2. 8 Nov 2023

    “I believe AI Agents will outhack humans.”

    Joseph Thacker Bug bounty hunter josephthacker.comEarly call

Rung 2 of 5

A helper

Every finding gets verified

11 people · Jul 2023 to Jul 2026

  1. 31 Jul 2023

    “AI augments human capabilities; it does not wholly replace human judgment and expertise.”

    Dan Guido CEO, Trail of Bits blog.trailofbits.com

  2. 7 Sep 2023

    “It took a few prompts to ensure it wasn’t hallucinating, and it did provide a few low-level bugs.”

    Jonathan Bouman Bug bounty hunter hackerone.com

  3. 10 Mar 2024

    “These are still pretty small scale experiments on essentially toy programs”

    Brendan Dolan-Gavitt Security researcher, NYU news.ycombinator.com

  4. 12 Mar 2024

    “Don’t think it’ll replace us yet, but auditing got more accessible.”

    Corben Leo Bug bounty hunter x.com

  5. 20 Jun 2024

    “current LLMs can really start to perform (admittedly rather basic) vulnerability research”

    Google Project Zero Project Naptime googleprojectzero.blogspot.com

  6. 26 Jun 2024

    “A lot of very subtle edge case conditions are not something the LLM is properly reasoning about so much as trying some things and maybe getting lucky.”

    Dave Aitel Exploit developer, Immunity founder x.com

  7. 21 Apr 2025

    “Without the diff of the patch, GPT would not have come close to being able to write a working proof-of-concept for it”

    Matthew Keeley Security researcher, Platform Security theregister.com

  8. 22 May 2025

    “If you’re an expert-level vulnerability researcher or exploit developer the machines aren’t about to replace you.”

    Sean Heelan Exploit developer, after o3 found a kernel bug sean.heelan.io

  9. 3 Jul 2025

    “But that's me, you know, using the AI sort of as a tool and my context is greater than the AI's context.”

    Justin Gardner Bug bounty hunter, Critical Thinking podcast criticalthinkingpodcast.io

  10. 11 May 2026

    “An amazingly successful marketing stunt for sure.”

    Daniel Stenberg On Anthropic’s Mythos daniel.haxx.seCounterpoint

  11. 20 Jul 2026

    “From my experience, this still requires a human in the loop.”

    Andrew Hoffman Software and security architect andrewhoffman.meCounterpoint

Rung 3 of 5

It finds real bugs

On easier targets and simpler bug classes

14 people · May 2023 to Jun 2026

  1. 21 May 2023

    “I gave ChatGPT a shot at it by copy-pasting from the etcd API documentation and asking it to find a vulnerability. It found it literally on the first try.”

    Yoni Rozenshein Security researcher x.com

  2. 16 Aug 2023

    “I asked GPT-4 to audit the old version of src/crypto/pseudo_random.cpp in libbitcoin-explorer and it rediscovered the milk sad vulnerability haha”

    Taylor Hornby Security engineer x.com

  3. 5 Aug 2024

    “I just learned that XBOW got as many solves as I did. I am shocked. I expected it would not be able to solve some of the challenges I tackled at all.”

    Federico Muttis Pentester, after XBOW tied his score xbow.com

  4. 20 Oct 2024

    “All of these vulnerabilities were not previously known or reported to the project maintainers,”

    Dan McInerney Lead AI threat researcher, Protect AI theregister.comLab claim

  5. Security1 Nov 2024

    Google’s Big Sleep finds an exploitable SQLite bug, the first public AI-found flaw of its kind. projectzero.google

  6. 17 Apr 2025

    “A few years ago, this process would have required specialized Erlang knowledge and hours of manual debugging. Today, it took an afternoon with the right prompts.”

    Matthew Keeley Security researcher, Platform Security platformsecurity.com

  7. 1 May 2025

    “I am increasingly worried that AI is going to be a good bug finder this year”

    Rob Joyce Former NSA Cybersecurity Director theregister.com

  8. 22 May 2025

    “I wrote-up how I used o3 to find CVE-2025-37899, a remote zeroday vulnerability in the Linux kernel's SMB implementation.”

    Sean Heelan Exploit developer x.com

  9. Jun 2025

    “Therefore, we don't know if they are low-hanging fruits or sophisticated issues.”

    Utku Şen Security researcher and tool author utkusen.substack.comCounterpoint

  10. 9 Jun 2025

    “Today's hackbots … can maybe find 1% of vulnerabilities on a hardened live production application.”

    Joseph Thacker Bug bounty hunter josephthacker.com

  11. Security24 Jun 2025

    XBOW, an autonomous pentester, tops HackerOne’s US leaderboard. xbow.com

  12. 4 Aug 2025

    “we have reported the first 20 vulnerabilities discovered using our AI-based”

    Heather Adkins VP of Security Engineering, Google opensourceforu.comLab claim

  13. 18 Sep 2025

    “They work extremely well. They find real vulnerabilities and logic bugs in minutes.”

    Joshua Rogers Independent security researcher joshua.hu

  14. Then7 May 2025

    “A threshold has been reached. We are effectively being DDoSed.”

    5months

    Now10 Oct 2025

    “Now this new breed, almost like a new category, of analyzers that seem to connect the dots better and see patterns previous tools and analyzers have not been able to.”

    Daniel Stenberg curl maintainer daniel.haxx.se

  15. 26 Jun 2026

    “It worked remarkably well; I found a few real vulnerabilities and reported them to the ClickHouse bug bounty program.”

    Tsvetan Stoychev Former principal engineer, Akamai clickhouse.com

  16. 30 Jun 2026

    “Using Claude Code, I was able to get XSS on www.redacted.com (one of the most well-known domains).”

    Justin Gardner Bug bounty hunter, Critical Thinking podcast yeswehack.com

Rung 4 of 5

It finds most of the bugs

More than the humans do

13 people · Aug 2025 to Oct 2026

  1. 6 Aug 2025

    “I'm already losing count”

    Mikko Hyppönen Chief research officer, Sensofusion itbrew.com

  2. 18 Sep 2025

    “it literally found hundreds of real vulnerabilities and bugs in very critical software”

    Joshua Rogers Independent security researcher joshua.hu

  3. 8 Feb 2026

    “do not bet against LLMs on this”

    Thomas Ptacek Vulnerability researcher simonwillison.net

  4. 18 Feb 2026

    “AI vulnerability finding is changing cybersecurity, faster than expected.”

    Bruce Schneier Security technologist, Harvard Kennedy School schneier.com

  5. 27 Feb 2026

    “We're finding more bugs in a week than we used to find in a month.”

    Joseph Thacker Bug bounty hunter x.com

  6. Mar 2026

    “I have never found one of these in my life before.”

    Nicholas Carlini Research scientist, Anthropic mtlynch.ioLab claim

  7. 26 Mar 2026

    “Something happened a month ago, and the world switched. Now we have real reports.”

    Greg Kroah-Hartman Linux stable kernel maintainer theregister.com

  8. Then31 Jul 2023

    “AI augments human capabilities; it does not wholly replace human judgment and expertise.”

    32months

    Now31 Mar 2026

    “we went from finding about 15 bugs a week to 200.”

    Dan Guido CEO, Trail of Bits blog.trailofbits.com

  9. 3 Apr 2026

    “Now most of these reports are correct, to the point that we had to bring in more maintainers to help us”

    Willy Tarreau HAProxy lead, Linux kernel security team simonwillison.net

  10. 11 Apr 2026

    “LLMs have now bypassed human capability for bug finding”

    Alex Stamos Former CSO of Facebook npr.org

  11. Then2 Jan 2024

    “we're soon to see a top reason security issues don't get fixed will be because they are lost in the sea of LLM generated nonsense bug bounty reports.”

    27months

    Now28 Apr 2026

    “AI can do more than find vulns in source code.”

    Scott Piper Cloud security researcher x.com

  12. 11 Oct 2026

    “The big open question is: Are we witnessing the vulnpocalypse or the bugocide?”

    Halvar Flake Security researcher x.com

  13. 22 Oct 2026

    “within the last few months, we have received hundreds of vulnerability reports submitted to curl and every single one had AI involved to some extent”

    Daniel Stenberg curl maintainer daniel.haxx.se

Rung 5 of 5

It finds and exploits alone

Humans barely check

12 people · Jun 2025 to Sep 2026

  1. 24 Jun 2025

    “All findings were fully automated”

    Nico Waisman Head of security, XBOW techrepublic.comLab claim

  2. Aug 2025

    “Our most ambitious approach gives LLMs full autonomy.”

    Taesoo Kim Team Atlanta, AIxCC winners team-atlanta.github.io

  3. 18 Jan 2026

    “The limiting factor on a state or group’s ability to develop exploits, break into networks… is going to be their token throughput”

    Sean Heelan Exploit developer sean.heelan.io

  4. 3 Apr 2026

    “You can’t design a better problem for an LLM agent than exploitation research.”

    Thomas Ptacek Vulnerability researcher simonwillison.net

  5. Security7 Apr 2026Lab claim

    Anthropic: models now “surpass all but the most skilled humans” at finding and exploiting vulnerabilities. anthropic.com

  6. 7 Apr 2026

    “Mythos can chain multiple low and medium vulns together to create a high or critical. This is a task that far less than 1% of cybersecurity experts have ever done.”

    Daniel Miessler Founder, Unsupervised Learning danielmiessler.com

  7. 11 Apr 2026

    “now they are far more easy to exploit by a far broader variety of potential adversaries”

    Casey Ellis Founder, Bugcrowd nbcnews.com

  8. 13 Apr 2026

    “Last month, I launched Claude on a private program one evening. By the next morning, it had found me about ten bugs. Without me doing anything.”

    Cassim Khouani Bug bounty hunter, YesWeHack aituglo.com

  9. 24 Apr 2026

    “As usual for this series, Claude found the bug and wrote the exploit on its own”

    Thai Duong and Bruce Dang Calif calif.io

  10. Then9 Jun 2025

    “Today's hackbots … can maybe find 1% of vulnerabilities on a hardened live production application.”

    13months

    Now1 Jul 2026

    “it became feasible for any skilled hacker to scale up a hacking agent, spending hundreds in token cost to find thousands in bounties.”

    Joseph Thacker Bug bounty hunter josephthacker.com

  11. Then17 Mar 2023

    “It couldn't do it. No matter how I crafted the prompts, it couldn't come up with the deep, technical response I was alluding to.”

    40months

    Now23 Jul 2026

    “remove ourselves from the loop even more and enable the AI to do its own thing and find these bugs autonomously.”

    Justin Gardner Bug bounty hunter, Critical Thinking podcast criticalthinkingpodcast.io

  12. Then5 Nov 2024

    “We're not there yet. We're not even remotely there yet. But it's a reasonable extrapolation.”

    21months

    Now11 Aug 2026

    “If there is any vulnerability in anything, AIs are going to find and exploit them.”

    Bruce Schneier Security technologist, Harvard Kennedy School schneier.com

  13. Sep 2026

    “Opus 5 turned it into a working image-upload exploit with ASLR on.”

    Hacktron Jaiswal, Pedhapati and Maini hacktron.ai

Sixteen people here said no, then yes.

  1. Andrej Karpathy Oct 2025 → Jan 2026 3 mo
  2. Daniel Stenberg May 2025 → Oct 2025 5 mo
  3. Nolan Lawson Apr 2025 → Dec 2025 8 mo
  4. David Heinemeier Hansson Jul 2025 → Aug 2026 13 mo
  5. Joseph Thacker Jun 2025 → Jul 2026 13 mo
  6. Max Woolf Jan 2025 → Feb 2026 13 mo
  7. Linus Torvalds Apr 2024 → Jan 2026 21 mo
  8. Bruce Schneier Nov 2024 → Aug 2026 21 mo
  9. Salvatore Sanfilippo (antirez) Jan 2024 → Jan 2026 24 mo
  10. Robert C. Martin Jun 2024 → Jul 2026 25 mo
  11. Scott Piper Jan 2024 → Apr 2026 27 mo
  12. Armin Ronacher Apr 2023 → Sep 2025 29 mo
  13. Dan Guido Jul 2023 → Mar 2026 32 mo
  14. Simon Willison Aug 2023 → May 2026 33 mo
  15. Justin Gardner Mar 2023 → Jul 2026 40 mo
  16. Santiago Valdarrama Jan 2023 → Aug 2026 43 mo

23 months

Median time from their no to their yes.

Public statements only. Lab claims marked; counterpoints kept. Survey: Stack Overflow; its trust question changed in 2026. Built 22 Oct 2026.